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Don't let Net Enforcers Ruin Your Day.

By usiff, Section Live Gripes
Posted on Tue May 09, 2006 at 02:39:18 PM PDT

Hello Everyone,

Here is our story on Net Enforcers.

- Background on our company (USiFF.COM): We provide an auction service / forum to allow users to trade items globally.

Back to the story:

Our site was shut down for 38 hours in early March 2006. We finally got a hold of our server company to see what was going on, and they told us that "Sony" had issues with two images in two different auctions. We contacted the seller and then removed the two images in question and went on our merry way. At the time, we tried to contact Sony, but never got a hold of anyone.

May rolls around.... and on May 2nd, 2006... we get this email letter from Net Enforcers / (the Law Offices of Terry N. Silverman). For some unknown reason, Net Enforcers send this letter to Network Solutions and not to our Corporate Office.

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Here is a clip of that letter.

Letter dated: February 20, 2006, from the Law Offices of Terry N. Silverman, P.A. (Working on behalf of Net Enforcers)

Re: Unauthorized Use of Sony Trademarks and/or Copyrighted Materials

Sony has retained Net Enforcers to assist with the protection and enforcement of Sony-owed or licensed trademarks, logos, and other copyrighted material (referred to in this letter as "Sony Works").

~ Sony believes that you have infringed upon its intellectual property rights by performing or allowing to be performed some or all the following actions, specifically with respect to moblie/car audio/video/navigation products sold by Sony's Personal Mobile Imaging Division: (1) improperly obtaining a copy of the Sony Works; (2) creating derivative works from Sony Works; (3) illegally reproducing the Sony Works; (4) illegally distributing the Sony Works; and (5) illegally publicly displaying the Sony Works of the following website(s):

http://www.usellit4free.com/cgi-bin/item.pl?item=1239
http://www.usellit4free.com/cgi-bin/item.pl?item=1250

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So, once I read this letter, I went online and found this site, "Ed Foster's Gripe Log" Thank you!

After reading a few different stories, we went ahead and contacted our lawyers and this is what they said, "The lawyer's letter contains no specific information ... just a fill in the blank kind of form letter. Just trying to sounds scary. "

Our lawyers then sent a reply to: Sony & Net Enforcers:

Here is a clip of that letter:
Please advise on what basis you believe that our client’s display of the above-referenced item for sale constitutes copyright infringement.  The seller purchased this item originally, and according to the first sale doctrine, has every right to re-sell that item.  Our client is simply offering the means by which the seller can offer his property for sale to interested buyers.  

We would appreciate a reasoned response to this inquiry based on the specific facts of this situation, not another form cease and desist letter intended to intimidate the recipient into compliance.  All further correspondence regarding this matter should be directed to my attention.  We await your response.


I will post the response once we get it.

Do Not Let Net Enforcers Ruin Your Day.

Take Care and have a great day!
Rene Holliday
USiFF.COM

[editor's note, by Jeff Foster] Removed Semi-advertisement


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They'll have to shut down Ebay then[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous User on Wed May 31, 2006 at 07:31:30 AM PDT

since it seems like half the auctions used cribbed photos of products from the original manufacturers websites versus people actually taking pictures of the piece of junk they have for sale.

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ip laws are behind the times[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#7)
by Anonymous User on Sat Oct 28, 2006 at 12:19:23 PM PDT

There are dozens of such firms, and the reason they send it to service providers is because they are easier to find and they will shut down the site ASAP so as not to be liable. This gets further complicated by the fact that Intelecual Property laws differ in different countries and there is no clear way to apply them. And most people when faced with legal threats just back off, which is a great loss since most of the statements handed out by these firms seem to be baseless. The entire set of laws regarding intelectual propetrty must be rewritten from the ground up, unfortunatly the only party that takes this seriesly is the pirate-party, and they didn't get enough votes in the election :(

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NetEnforcers are a plague[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#8)
by Anonymous User on Fri May 18, 2007 at 01:45:16 AM PDT

These people are complete bullies plain and simple. In their Ebay VeRO about me page they claim the right to file an intellectual property rights claim against you for making claims about an items manufacturers warranty(ie, my item is a month old and still has 11 months left on the warranty) and for selling software that you own. http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=net_enforcers_inc and because they're in eBay's VeRO club, eBay takes their word for it and ends your auction. They also have a 'report a violation' form right on their front page, so some scumbag ACTUAL grey market seller, you know like all the places selling only 'refurbished' or 'untested' items which really do damage brand value for example, can prevent legitimate private parties from competing with them. I'm going to war with them and I hope everyone who gets messed with by them does too. Email the PR, press, media relations, or any corporate department you can find of whatever company they're acting to abuse you on behalf of and tell them that because of this you've gone from a loyal paying customer who was using and recommending their products to one who is now actively seeking to comment negatively on them. Post some negative reviews around cnet and pricegrabber with some username that's a variation on the name NetEnforcers.

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Just one more reason to boycott Sony[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous User on Wed Sep 05, 2007 at 09:32:59 AM PDT

It should be clear to everyone by now that Sony does not deserve anyone's business. Since the rootkit-on-a-CD debacle, I have not purchased a single Sony product of any kind and I urge others to do likewise. Maybe when the shareholders see their shares drop, they will fire the lawyers that they now have running the company.

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What I know to be true.[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by netenforcers on Tue Oct 16, 2007 at 11:47:50 AM PDT

NetEnforcers is a poorly run establishment that invests almost zero resources into technology and commonly indulges in shady business practices such as payoffs and questionable intellectual property enforcement and harassment. NetEnforcers employs zero automated systems, but does utilize college students from the Gainesville, FL area to scour Google for infringing domains and monitor eBay. Many clients of NetEnforcers are always on the verge of terminating their contract due to poor service, but are commonly deferred by falsified reports citing examples of improved intellectual property compliance over their already elapsed contracted period.

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