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This is all a bunch of crap[ Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous User on Thu May 01, 2003 at 08:30:58 AM PDT

The only issue I see here is a bunch fuck-wits wanting their cake and eating it too. On one hand, they bad mouth MS. On the other hand, they are more than willing to use a MS dev tool.

The EULA is clear and all these ass holes want to do is effectively get something for nothing.

If these people had any balls and were being true to the cause they purport to have, he would create an open source dev tool that would bring the functionality of VFP to the Linux market.

A lot of online resources have picked up this story and in every case, have based the story from 1 perspective. Where is the fairness in that?

Fortunately, there are at least a few level headed people willing to argue the other side of this instead of being yet another blind following sheep in the herd.

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No axe to grind, here, eh?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#3)
by TedRoche on Thu May 01, 2003 at 10:13:31 AM PDT

No, I bought a tool from Fox Software many years ago that I could deploy on DOS, Windows, Mac and UNIX, and with it I have made a successful living for a dozen years. Now, I'd like to find out if I can use it on a platform other than Windows, and I find Microsoft has slip-streamed new requirements into the licenses that prevent me from doing that. That's a pretty shabby way to treat their customers. So, how about paying for a license to redistribute on another platform, since FoxPro won't be subsidized by the OS? I'd be willing to consider a reasonable offer. At this point, clients have indicated their willingness to deploy the entire IDE for the power of VFP on Linux, at $649 SRP per box. There may be an opportunity for Microsoft to make some money in these troubled times.

I am not interested in building an open source tool to duplicate VFP's power - it is a very large undertaking and not the type of development I usually do. However, I am certainly looking at tools in that arena - LAMP is rich with possibilities. I would have been pleased to see Microsoft in that venue, just as I am pleased they wrote MS Office for the Mac, Front Page Extensions for UNIX, and BASIC for my Commodore 64.

As for the alternative perspective, Ken Levy has been quoted in several of the articles, hasn't he? Is there a third angle to the story? Please enlighten us.


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Re: No axe to grind, here, eh?[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous User on Thu May 01, 2003 at 11:39:27 AM PDT

Then go to Kylix

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Very level-headed[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#4)
by EdLeafe on Thu May 01, 2003 at 10:37:05 AM PDT

Wow! I had no opinion on this matter, but your level-headed discourse has swayed me over! I sure hope that all Visual FoxPro developers are as intelligent, courteous and level-headed as you most certainly are!!

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Please clean up your act like M$ should[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#11)
by Boris on Fri May 02, 2003 at 09:52:43 AM PDT

Your potty outh detracts from your arguments which belong in the garbage. If you purchase a product, you should not be limited on what platform you can run run it on. It is called bundeling and is illegal under the anti-trust laws. How would yo like it if Ford said you could only drive your car on asphalt roads and that the use on concrete or gravel or dirt roads would not only nulify your warranty but they would sue you for illegal use of the product you PAID for. Mose of us would not be driving Fords, right? But if Ford were the only manufaturer of cars then what would you do? It is restrictions like this that really quash competition. This is Eccon 101 stuff. You really need to do your homework before you start with the manure spreading. "Profanity is a feeble mind trying to forcefully express itself".

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Profanity[ Parent | Reply to This ] (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous User on Fri May 02, 2003 at 09:59:59 AM PDT

Amen to the quote from SWK.

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